T-Mobile G1 users are clamoring for Android Cupcake update facts and information as T-Mobile itself provides little to no information and when it is provided it is often contradicting.
I posted on this site about an internal memo thats been collaborated privately to me by several senior T-Mobile personnel where it states the INTENTION to release an OTA update having elements of Cupcake for G1 users as early as the 11th but most likely by the 15th.
I echoed the frustrations of G1 users to T-Mobile today since the intended deadline for all intents and purposes has passed.
I spoke directly to a senior G1 PDA Specialist today, Dylan, below are the FACTS from that conversation as he himself will later comment at Google And Blog on:
FACT – There WILL be a G1 update shortly as it was INTENDED to be by mid-January so the next target is now by the end of January.
FACT – T-Mobile will not just provide Cupcake elements to the G2 and leave the G1 behind.
FACT – The next update will be called RC31 and include Cupcake elements.
FACT – The mass of calls lately for Cupcake is registering and causing T-Mobile to double their efforts in getting the update out.
FACT – NO ONE has received RC31 as of today.
FACT – When the update is released it will be done in stages “Over The Air” but it will be by region not when you purchased the G1.
FACT – The memo I was privy to is NOT distributed to Support personnel.
FACT – T-Mobile Specialists & Support are LAST to know when an update happens and are notified AFTER it is released as was the case with RC29 & RC30.
FACT – T-Mobile does have a battery improvement program in motion
FACT – T-Mobile’s plan for battery improvement will be one of OR a combination of efficiencies in an OTA update and an extended life battery replacement.
But, YOU, Michael Martin & Google And Blog said a Cupcake update was coming out on the 11th or by the 15th.
I passed on information that T-Mobile intended to release the update by now in order to give the public SOME inside knowledge as to what to expect and when – also no country was invaded due to this information.
I take responsibility in posting it as the information was reliable but T-Mobile missed the target so the positive result is that it increased public awareness and lighted a fire under T-Mobile to get their users some CUPCAKE.
In the end I hope T-Mobile provides its G1 customers reliable and prompt information as well a proper heads up on things to come.
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Woo hoo!
In honor of the president’s speech
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
Squeaky Wheel ready for grease!
at least we have a new place to blow smoke up everyone’s a__es
Thanks for the answers to all my questions I was about to call t mobile to ask all these questions I really can’t wait foe the update because we deserve something good after paying so much for this phone at least I now some people were lying just to make us more desperate
Keep up the good work mike
I got the new update today. I now have video recorder and alot more.
thank you for actual facts. People that give contradictory information shows how incredibly ignorant this population can be. Now i know you just gave many facts but when you say by region… is that east central west? or something different? I don’t know how detailed the PDA specialist was but if you failed to mention something specific i’d like to know lol. Thanks Mike!
LOL @ masterjam…
now i wont have to scroll down to see what some other ignorant idiot has to say about RC31 coming out in october lol.
Thank you for you efforts Michael. Its good to have some concrete facts. Its also good to know that I helped in putting a fire under tmobiles arse by calling them multiple times regarding this issue.
I am really curious as to what “cupcake elements” means though. Actually, I know what it means… but I’m wondering what will be left off the list of things that don’t make it to the G1???
This is good, all I wanted were some answers. So…NICE.
Ok here we go another 2 weeks ahhh who cares I don’t mind blogging here you guys are cool
Thanks Mike, I’ll be hoping.
Great facts!=)
Mmmmm cupcake
This is pissing me off. I’m really sick of waiting. Wait for what?! I mean if everything is ready to be sent via OTA, then they should just send it already. I mean come on. But hey, maybe their adding a flash player with it. Hehehe..I can hope…
finally! some real insight! now hopefully we dont have to read all the stupid whiney doubters! lol
ill be one of the last to get hte update im in a city were g3 is not available :’(
Should I jailbreak this phone and explore what its capabilities are
You’ll have to have a fully charged battery and make sure it’s pluged in. You’ll also have to make sure you have enough disk space so start getting rid of those messages and programs. You’ll need to have solid coverage or your update can fail. You don’t want to miss your chance and get rolled over your time period because you weren’t ready.
Can you find out more information about any possibility of a G2 release? I’ve heard various rumors from “It’s not gonna be released for T-Mobile anyways, its for another carrier” to “its not a sequel to G1, its just another name for another phone that android will be released on, the ACTUAL G2 sequel won’t be released for months” to “The G2 will be released in a 2-3 months for tmobile”
Any clarity or truth to any of these? I just bought my G1 and would be extremely pissed.
yea itz cool now that we have sum TRUE FACTS! So ppl jus feel free to relax n post. Oh and to you asses that claimed you had the updates, i knew you all were juss a bunch of A**HOLES (LOL):)
(ALL THIS CUPCAKE TALK MAKES ME HUNGRY FOR 1! IM FINNA MAKE A TRIP TO WALMART AND BUY THE MOST EXPENSIVE THEY HAVE…GO TO TMOBILE AND SHARE THEM WITH EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE THE G1!)
So basically we wait another two weeks, then we all sit on the computer till midnight on January 31 till midnight, just for t-mobile to tell us that it will be another two weeks? Not worth it to me…besides, im diabetic, so a cupcake is bad for me :p
Damn its about time I hope dey don’t change dey mind again bc dey getting on my nerves wit all dis bs
I never thought that ghetto speak could translate so seamlessly into text…
@claz187,
lmfao that was hilarious
@micheal
i have new g1 being mailed to me due to some difficulties but im scared dat changin sim cards with my new phone might affect my OTA….is dere n e insight u can give me??????
now that we have more facts on this, i wanna know when the heck is flash coming! im not sure but it seems theyve been working on this longer. annnnnnnd they already have a preview of it already on a g1! despite the little lag they had idc! id trade this g1 for that g1 that had flash lol
How much disk space is needed for this update cuz we don’t have much to start with as it is?? If I miss this update I’m gonna be pretty ticked off!!
“…intensive purposes…”
Dude.
__”…for all intents and purposes…”__
@Jake Reimer,
Updated my grammar in the post. Thanx
you’ll have 2 have a fully charged battery, u betta delete some stuff, u betta have 3g…get an iphone or u’ll never get the update. umm how bout if ur stupid u shouldnt GET anything. i’m sick. trendy is not something i want to be a part of. look, cupcake is an update not a life saver or something that will justify spending hundreds of $ on a phone. i am looking for stereo blutooth and video recording….as an added feature. my only beef is the battery. i would love something that would prevent me from buying another phone, but that is never gonna happen…. they (mobile providers) are too good at wanting u to want more
Thank you so much for the info. I’m so happy to finally receive facts and not speculation. You’re my hero!
I woud first like to say thank you for the insite on the update, I have been argueing with coworkers who have the iphone of course saying that the g1 is better in every aspect shure they have covrage in the workspace but there is a tower on top (stupid kids) and now it will be no contest for the g1 to be better then it and I must add that it is 12:25 on the 16th here in lower texas and no update I yes will wait no arguement you just have to remember paitents is a virtue not manny people have
“Elements”, “shortly”, “stages” “not just”. Yawn.
Hey right on Jonathan! Give me your number let’s talk I want to talk with you.
My number one issue is battery life so its good to hear that they are looking to tackle that problem…
I am still running my old phone, as K800i which i can use for about 3 days between charges. Im not expecting the G1 to ever be this good, but until I can got 1.5 maybe 2 days between charges, I cant rely on the G1 enough to use it as my only phone…
Currently im having to charge my G1 overnight and then again at work, so we are looking at 1/2 day between charges, which is useless…
Good to get some news that the cupcake updates are on their way too!
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Sweet so is deff coming. And I knew they wouldn’t leave the g1 out of the update there would be way way to many pissed off customers. Besides even if they did I just got my g1 and I was told By the tmo rep that Sold it if I didn’t like it within 90 days I could return it so that’s what id do and get the g2 if they didn’t update g1
@eric,
dude the g2 isn’t coming out within 90 days………so don’t hold your breath
I don’t think you have to have a fully charged battery or have the phone plugged in to received the update. I didn’t have either when I got the rc30. I’m not even sure if I had 3g, but I might have. Is the full battery theory specific to cupcake? And if I don’t have a 3g signal but have wifi is would I still get the ota?
Just to clarify for a few people who have asked – you WILL be able to update via wifi. If you install AnyCut and make a shortcut to ‘Device Info’, you’ll see a ‘Check for upgrade’ button on that screen. When you click this with wifi on it still checks in successfully – thus wifi will be fine for the OTA.
@Nickedynick,
Thanks.
@Nickedynick,
Lol now its going to be like the Myspace Mobsters app and refreshing the hitlist. A bunch of losers are going to have that open clicking check for update 100 times a min hahahahah its great though.
@Nickedynick, Dude, that is genius! Of had anycuts forever and didn’t realize I could make shortcuts to things I can’t even see normally.
Well done sir!
That’s interesting with any cut its possible to pull up that screen.
I wish I would of never got on the internet and look at these websites..this cupcake is driving me crazy!
I hope I do get it, especially cause I live in the big city. I hope I’m one of the 1st ones to get the update can’t wait!
So does anyone know how long the recoding time and if you can upload the videos straight to youtube or etc like in a txt?
Ok.. first of all don’t be that worried over the update. When I received the rc30 I barely had 10mb and 50% battery…. just don’t worry about it and if you miss it. You can download a modded version and get root access =) and enable hella like auto rotation
Hey Michael,
Could you please find out if Flash will be included in the RC31 update?
@Mdg,
Speaking with actual Google Android engineers Flash would not be included in any Android update itself.
To my knowledge Adobe itself will release FLASH for Android once its properly QAd and ready for public consumption.
At that point my sense is there would be a PR release and a download directly from Adobe or in the Android Market.
T-Mobile COULD bundle it in with an OTA but have not heard of any plans to do so.
@Michael Martin, what about album art?for those of us that put or on music on or sd cards?
@gary,
I KNOW saving pictures from text messages will be in the update.
But as far as some kind of auto Album Art synching – I dont know.
Currently you can do this via some manual steps – Android Community has a GREAT explanation and how-to http://androidcommunity.com/forums/56691-post6.html
Just for those who don’t have 3G net. I am in salt lake and it is only EDGE here it is just as fast as 3G. But any ways you will still get the OTA just the same.
“Updates in the US will be released late January, starting in the south western states (CA, AZ and NV), and ending in the north eastern states (NY, VT, NH and ME). This will take place over the period of 24 hours. Releases in the UK and Canada will follow shortly, followed by the rest of Europe and Asia.” – Ghandi, MK, G1 PDA Specialist
@catwasinthehat,
That sounds reliable and similar to the information I have.
It should start on a Sunday and being that I am in San Diego I should be one of the first and will report WITH A SCREENSHOT here.
Keep in mind that “Cupcake elements” and “cupcake” can be two entirely different things – “engine parts” does not equal a whole engine.
If half a day is all the battery life I’m going to get out of the G1, you’ll be seeing mine on eBay soon. This is ridiculous. And the battery upgrade? First generation SAT phones were smaller than this thing would be with that thing duct taped to the back. We paid $179 to be beta testers. Never had that pleasure before…quite an experience. I hope Android turns out to be everything its been touted as. Soon as newer, sexier T-Mo G phone comes out, I’m ditching this ugly bitch. :)
“First generation SAT phones were smaller than this thing would be with that thing duct taped to the back.”
No, they where much bigger, I know I used them. Wore the damn thing on my back.
I get 24-30 hours between charges and I ahve everything turned on.
I read there is a problem with the software detection of batterylevels and the battery wasn’t actually completly empty nor would it fill completly uip.
SO I let mine run all the way down, let it set over nights, and then spent 12 hours plugged in and charging. It doubled my battery life.
So whether something needs to be ‘reset’(for lack of a better word) in the battery software/firmware or something else happened coincidentally I don’t know.
@Michael
Thanks for the quick response. One more question that your probably tired of answering, have you heard anything solid on extending application memory to th SD card or the paid app Market Place? Thanks again for your insight and I appologize for all the whinners you guys have to put up with. Teenagers+technology-instant gradification=headaches!
@Mdg,
Thats actually my biggest complaint beyond the battery longevity is the miniscule internal memory we are allowed to have apps on.
Android engineers tell me that disabling apps being run off the SD card is for speed & safety reasons (meaning if the card is dislodged while running) – take it for what its worth.
@Michael Martin,
i would buy that if there was more internal memory.
About the battery life:
I am getting 46 hours out of the stock battery with moderate use.. the more you charge these batteries the better the battery life gets.
Run it dead, charge it for 6 hours, repeat. Once you’ve done that 5 or 6 times you will see longer battery life and it will be harder to intentionally run it dead.
@Ian MacGregor,
Same here, when I got my G1 I ran it completely dead, then fully charged it. Repeated that maybe 2 or three times, and my battery has always lasted at least a day and half to 2 days, even with moderate to high usage…I am assuming the people having battery issues are using the phone very excessively.
So, I would assume that the OTA update will be on the 25th of January… since that is the last Sunday of the month.
“Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a sh$t about the rules? Mark it zero!”
The cupcake is a lie.
Thanks for the news.
I am seeing many posts about “conditioning” lithium ion (LiOn) batteries. I would like to see a reference citing that this indeed works. I’m afraid this may be a holdover tip from the Nickel-Cadmium days. This article (http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm) indicates that a full drain / recharge every 30 charges merely corrects the “fuel gauge” but does not increase usage time for Li-On cells. It states, “Avoid frequent full discharges because this puts additional strain on the battery.”
I wish it would come out on tha 25th it would be a good cupcake to eat on my B-DAY!!
I posted this in different forums for fun while we wait for cupcake.
“Cupcake Depression”
The 2nd of two rumored cupcake release dates have passed and depression is setting in. It seems we must resort to prayer and so…
“In the name of the father/fabricator (HTC) and of the son/service (T-mobile) and of the holy ghost (Google)amen.
Our father (Android) who are in heaven (Online) hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come on earth (in handsets) as it is in heaven (online). Give us this day our daily bread (cupcake) and forgive us our trespasses (being early adopters) as we forgive those who trespass against us (AT&T, Apple and Iphone users).
Lead us not into temptation (lusting for flash, video and stereo bluethooth), world (internet) without end amen.”
Let “Cupcake” fall from heaven like “Manna” to sustain us as we cross the desert looking for the holy land, peopled by other Android users.
Don’t get religious about this, just letting off steam.
Amen
@michael martin do u know what is going to be in this update? Is it going to the the on-screen keyboard and the video recording.
@cupcakemyth,
Nothing definitive so any speculation goes into the shady rumor pile.
I KNOW they are trying to get everything from the Cupcake branch in, which is what SEEMS to be the delaying factor.
SHADY RUMOR PILE – video recording is whats hanging it up, if that was excluded the update could have happened this week.
@Michael Martin, Did you get it Michael and other
@NATE,
I got the email you forwarded from a Yahoo account that is prefaced with TMobileXXXXXX in front but what the email describes is what the Cupcake Android branch is but nothing about what T-Mobile will ACTUALLY provide in an OTA.
That information is exactly what you get at http://source.android.com/roadmap/cupcake
Micheal, would it be wise to jailbreak my phone? I am not inclined what so ever about technology, however I know that this phone is capable of much more than what we currently have
@Magnolia,
My personal opinion is to avoid jailbreaking or accessing root unless you have some programming knowledge, else its not worth the effort for what you get out of it.
Okay guys if you have any questions let me know but this is how it works. You can get the OTA (Over The Air) UPDATE via GPRS, EDGE, Wifi or 3G the only thing it would affect is the speed at which it downloads. Updates are random its not done by region, location, state, city nothing this is what I’m trying to get across to everyone also once the intial rollout it can take up to anywhere from 1 month before everyone has received it as in just because you buddy right next to you gets it doesn’t mean your up next which again you could get it the following week are the next day.
Ill make it simple once the update is rolled out everyone with a G1 will be placed in the user pull and the server doesn’t play favorites so at that point your device always checks for any updates like the most recent version. I can explain better but just to give everyone an idea also for the love of all that is holy previous sidekick user don’t tell G1 owners there is a way to force the update because there is not but if turning your device on and off for a couple of hours makes you happy then who am I to stop you heck I could even tell you why it wouldn’t work anyway peace and be patient.
michael or anyone are you having problems with your GPS? mine is not connecting…had the phone for a month now…whats going on? anyone with the problem?
Are paid apps tied into the cupcake? anyone?
The only thing I’m worried about with this update is developers rushing to put this out quickly because we have been rushing them so much that its gonna be all buggy and shit. I mean not like they havnt had enough time to do it right or anything I’m just saying I hope that’s not the case.
you know wht else i think. i say if we dont get this update by the end of the onth we expose this isue we have with google and tmo to the mainstream media and put it out there… they wont like that at all tmo and google dont want any bad media like that because they will never be able to compete with at&t and iphone if that happend. we do that and you better believe we would have that update asap. Bad media like that would hurt there g2 sells. people would go somewere else if they knew tmo wasnt suporting their customers
i hope the update comes with both qwerty soft keyboard, and a T9 soft keyboard. T9 is easier to use when I text singlehanded. otherwise im sure it will only be a matter of time before a dev will make one.
this is for dylan the g1 specialist you are not a specialist and i will tell you when the cupcake update will be out so pass it on 10/1/09 and by the way stop lieing to all these people they are very upset they dont need it thanks
@dave, dude you are an idiot can you not see the facts above just shut up and leave it alone why kill every ones hope
its quiet in here… toooo quiet
iknnow it is i think everyone knows what isaid is true that its coming out 10/1/09
@dave,
Whats your source?
I find it HIGHLY unlikely the T-Mobile OTA update would be delayed til then.
Unless you are talking about when the G2 itself will be released publicly.
i want 2 watch cnn live on my g1 on tues via flash. will it happen? what do you think?
I love watching people go bat **** over CC. Screeching that Google, Android, and T Mobile are doomed if they don’t release it now. As if the rest of the users out there who don’t know about CC give a flying crap about updates. Geeks…gotta love how they, we, whatever, hyperventilate over such trivial things. CC will ship when its ready. Period. Get over it.
@Michael Martin
Hey I just want to tell u I email tmo a couple of days ago asking them about an update and they just wrote me back today and they said that they will put the release date on tmobile.com once they know when its ready to be launched. So I just wanted to let u know
According to livecrunch.com the update is coming jan. 18th(this sunday!!)..I don’t know if its true but I hope so
@dude, Let’s hope they’re being honest, but damn do I hope so
damn the wait!!!!
yo check this out. I went to bed last night hoping that possibly the rumors were right and we would get an update this morning. I DREAMED about it last night. It was great, everything we want and more. I couldn’t stay in bed past 5am, convinced that I was clairvoyant. Well guess what, I forgot to turn off the GSM and my G1 was DEAD, on the charger. I powered up… and… nada. Someone hold me. And while you’re at it, gimme another line of bull, like it’s coming the 25th…NOT.. then the 31st(according to an email from Obama)…going back to sleep now.
Lol damn have a cupcake ..wah yu flavour
i had called the google company and spoke to one of their reps..and they told me that cupcake has changed its name to brownies…wtf yeaa!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Dream-G2-Phone-w-EDGE-Google-IM-Game-Music-Video-FM_W0QQitemZ250352610917QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCell_Phones?hash=item250352610917&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A570|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1308|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50
wtf is this ?
@joe,
Ok, figured it out, its a knock off from SciPhone in china (zzzPhone makers). Always knew all those ‘new G2′ videos were BS, they were just this knock off phone. also explains the stylus etc.
@joe,
Yup thats the cheap Chinese knockoff trying to capitalize on the G naming.
This is NOT the “official” G2, which can only be designated by T-Mobile.
@Michael Martin,
Yeh, I had seen it in the ‘supposed’ G2 videos that some other site reported, and thought it was quite odd compared to the G1, esp. the stylus. Looks like crap, but, it is pretty cheap and might be interesting to play with, if it is even really android that is. I have my doubts on even the legitimacy of Android being the real OS (hahahaha)
I work for tmobile and can’t even find out if flash player will be included anyone know?
@Audrey, probably not, seeing as flash is an adobe product, not a google/tmobile product. flash will be most likely installable from the market or something as a pluggin like on every other OS.
Where did everyone go?
This all so wrong — NOBODY is holding up OTAs for Cupcake, because Cupcake is STILL PRE-ALPHA. It is the name of the code line that is currently in development in the open-source repository, but it is not yet even feature complete. There have been no announcements about it being released, the only announcement was about putting the code in the open-source repository for public work to happen on it and the major features being done there.
It is extremely unlikely for any “Cupcake elements” to be pulled back into some early release, because since Cupcake is not feature compete, these features ARE NOT COMPLETE!
I don’t know where you got your information from, but in the future you might want to be a lot more skeptical about whatever you hear from this person. This is all just a mish-mash of half-truths and no truth at all.
@Dianne Hackborn,
Its difficult to argue with you as from what I understand you are part of the Google Android team.
I noted your and Mark Murphy’s concerns in the post previous to this, but reports from HTC state Cupcake elements are ready for the G1 and only relies on T-Mobile porting & distributing it.
Can you publicly present FACTS especially counter to what T-Mobile support & internal communications are stating???
Thank you for your insight!
The only facts I can give you is the very public fact that Cupcake is pre-alpha and thus would not be released at the end of the month. I don’t know what the “elements of Cupcake” are.
There has been ongoing localization work that is not part of Cupcake, which is needed to allow shipping of devices in more countries, so that could certainly ship before. Some bug fixes and small app changes could ship before. But any of the major Cupcake features? No.
@Dianne Hackborn,
On http://source.android.com/roadmap/cupcake it states “Update: cupcake has been merged into master.” – could you clarify as that seems to point to it being stable?
Conceivably T-Mobile could “jury-rig” the available CupCake code to get some enhancements to the G1 in an OTA update – which is what I understand is being done…is this offbase?
I Can finally sleep good at nights now :)….theres no cupcake lol
Lol wow as I’ve said in other post whatever update is coming isn’t cupcake. If anything tmobile should get a couple features out there to shut folks up till something major is ready. Maybe they can push adobe to ready the flash player or put out a beta or demo flash player. Hell enable some bluetooth options anything at this point is better then nothing. I think allot of people would be happy to just see improvements being pushed out and not to mention official statements from tmobile would pretty much stop this nonsense and I’m sure the influx of calls to tmobile asking about the update would drop. I think I’m more dissappointed in the lack of tmobile addressing its customers with offical information then not seeing a cupcake update.
So wait, are these cupcakes going to be chocolate or vanilla? I think its really nice of t-mobile to send everyone desert.
Okay so this is prob rlly dumb to ask. So I read what all this includes. Its amazing. When is it coming for the G1? I don’t want a G2 if they make one I just bought this 300$ phone why have to pay it again. I just want this update. I live in michigan and would love to have it as soon as possible
@doug bilinski,
its not happening damnit. READ!!!!!
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I know I will, until we get cupcake, rc31, 1.1 etc. At this point anydamnthing ota will satisfy my urges to download and update!
Honestly, its hard to focus on the real world until we get past this.
I have been wondering about this also and Dianne has confirmed that “cupcake elements” are just beyond the truth since they are not even complete right now. Most likely here are the changes for the update at the end of the month. There is a leaked ADP1.1 image at XDA forums so most likely:
-Smoother, More Stable & Faster Response IN OS
-Apps restart automaticly after crashing
-The ability to skip signing-in to your google account
-An “Import Sim Contacts” option has been added to the contact menu.
-There is a “Local & Text” tab in “SETTINGS” now.
It has only “English” but other langauges probobly be added later.
-You now have an option to get the numeric dialpad with out having to slide up
the tab when making a call.
-System Updater in “Settings”
- GMail app: Now you have the ability to just sync labeled mails newer than X days.
@Arron La,
Great post you put up as I commented there as well.
This is also my opinion of what will be rolled into the RC31 OTA update by T-Mobile in the coming weeks.
The video recording feature is just not stable especially for the G1 that doesnt have any true video recording hardware.
@Arron La, you are the one who posted the screen shots….and claim you have the g1 with the update already….With the link I posted above..
So my question to you is where is all the good shyt we was looking forward to….Like stereo bluetooth and all that other things ? I mean every has been crying for this???????…..? there isn’t shyt good you listed in the link above unless the onscreen keyboard is good to you people…..
@Stop Crying,
That is NOT the T-Mobile OTA update, but rather he manually uploaded the latest MASTER build of Android onto his G1, from my understanding.
@Stop Crying,
This is NOT the T-Mobile OTA update but rather he uploaded the latest stable Android MASTER build onto his G1 MANUALLY – from my understanding.
i say we give up our g1 at the end of the mouth if no update! btw i got ma replacement battery yesterday. this cupcake is getting sweet.
i hate thats theirs no straight answer about this update…t-mobile or whoever is sending this OTA update needs to get their S**T together and give the g1 owners a straight answer on what’s going on…
I think “hooked on phonics” should come out with an application in the market and advertise it on this blog…
Ok well check this out if this is all we are getting in the cupcake/RC31 build then tmo and google can take this cupcake and ram it up their arses….
There is screen shoots on this link.
http://arronla.com/2009/01/installed-cupcake-development-build/
Would the real diane hackborn please stand up?
@sda,
Do you think that wasn’t her?
I don’t think that was an imposter.
@Michael Martin,
Diane Hackborn is full of crap and the whole google team if they released info on cupcake or rc31 whatever they want to call it today and tmo techs are talking about it and now diane says its not ready? Why would they even leak info out if its not ready! Info being leaked out to the public is no secret that its done for free marketing more people get runors faster than ads!
Well here we go…samsung and huawei are releasing an android. The G1 and whoever is putting out whatever for it better get it together soon or my top drawer will have another paperweight.
oh yeah and i forgot to mention the REAL photos of a g2… or at least it sure looks legitimate.
on the other hand why would you purchase something from htc, google, or tmobile that wasn’t up to snuff at release. hindsight 20/20?
It appears that a T-Mobile rep has given an official statement regarding the release of “Cupcake”.
And it doesn’t look like it’s coming out anytime soon…
http://www.intomobile.com/2009/01/22/t-mobile-to-android-fans-no-cupcake-for-you.html
you know, i have been thinking about this, and i really do not understand the problem really. The problem I talk about is the if/when we get this new release. Hear me out on this….
So, I would guess that cupcake is probably NOT ready at all for prime time. it has been merged into master for less than a month, and as a software developer myself, I can tell you that that is not even enough time to do basic internal testing, let alone proper QA. I for see it read in maybe 1-2 months for a full stable release, possibly three. In the meantime I would expect smaller updates off of the G1 branch (if such exists), that basically has bug fixes/optimizations/etc before then.
Now, the question if we get this update ? I have been in OSS/FOSS for a long time now, and I can say that someone out there will get everything working on the G1, and that the update will be available via XDF or other groups. I mean really, the source is there just requires the tweaking for the G1. Personally, I do NOT think google wants to make something that will not run on ALL hardware, otherwise, Android as a platform fails. If they have to have the special G1, G2, Samsung etc branches, then it will be a nightmare to maintain. As far as I can tell the goal is to have the OS benign to the hardware, and, if one looks at the linux kernel, thats not exactly a hard task given all the platforms that it supports. Perhaps some of the proprietary drivers will need to be hacked a bit if a new kernel is released to run on it, but it really shouldnt be a problem.
Basically, no matter what tmobile tries to do, it will make it to the G1 one way or the other, this is the power of open source and an open platform. I have been reading various developers already hacking the current cupcake branch to get the bluetooth/wifi etc working on the G1 with not too much effort.
So, I personally put most of my faith in the OSS developers, and if my job ever stops being 80 hours a week with 4 hour commutes here and there, I hope to get into it a little more :)
My tentative weekend process is to root and install the latest dev image, as it has some damn cool things in it (wifi tethering, autorotate, etc), and put my faith behind the OSS community :)
Also, as a passing note, I will make the age old OSS adage:
Stop complaining about things, pick up a book and help fix them instead :)
just waiting til the first of Feb. then i give looking for more info on this cupcake or g1 with flash and start planing on selling it. Then buy a new phone. Simple..
@joe
A voice of sanity! Thanks!
Last time I checked, I can do 100% of the things I bought the G1 for. Seems like a whole lot a gnashing of teeth for “icing” stuff.
there is a mailing address on your tmobile bill. if you really want to express your disappointment in tmobile. get a box and ship them your g1 back, and switch carriers. talk and no action gets you just that….no action.
Regarding RC29 and RC30 how did these updates affect the G1 phone?I am on my third phone and wondering if I have all updates at this time
Tmobile is a baby back bitch.I want my update
Another disappointment from this phone, tmobile, this source, this author. the market blows, the apps suck, the phone is new, i get that, but still, there obviously is a lot of flaw, and basically we did pay to become Beta testers, and not too long from now the G2 will come out…I have a brick, the market is unregulated, full of racist, ignorant and flatout the most unintelligent “people” for lack of a better word. This is is supposed to be better than the iphone, and it may be capability wise, but every UI for 90% of the apps, suckass, are slower than the time it takes to bake a potato. Im in medicinal biochemistry, and none of these applications are remotely related to it, no science/medicine category like the iphone. . .is this enough complaining?
BTW
*note to the author, whats up with your source?….again.
@Ai,
Check out the latest post as I touched on this.
I’m a patient guy and rather have it right than right now.
Actually I would MUCH rather have Flash support but Adobe ain’t talking. No rumors…or “memos”, for now…
@Ai, well, if there are no bio chemistry apps, then go download the SDK and write one. Seriously, complaining about that is ridiculous. If you expect software engineers to learn biochem to write you apps, well then, we expect the biochems to learn software programming and write and start them themselves :)
I switched from the g1 to the iphone 3g mainly because of the lack of quality apps and the repeated dropped calls. With my new phone I’m drowning in apps/games and I’m loving every minute of it. The funny thing is that I’m a PC guy at heart and that’s why I initially bought the g1. But for some of the reasons mentioned in this thread I dismissed the g1. I’m so much happier with my new phone. I must say that I don’t mind syncing and backing up my iphone on my PC in itunes. If periodically syncing my phone assures me that I can restore my phone to an ideal state with all apps, photos, contacts, songs and etc. intact, then why not. I wish I had that feature on my g1 especially when it comes to a dreaded factory reset. The app store and itunes works so perfect with the iphone it’s scary. I feel the iphone is an entertainment phone and you’re never bored with it. I have a **bleep** load of songs, tower defense, rpg and racing games on my phone. I was hoping to get that from the g1 but like everyone said I think the g1 wasn’t ready or maybe it was in beta. If the g2 is better than the iphone then I’ll switch back. But for now I’m very satisfied.
all i want is a faster brower with flash player and video recording….screw everything else …damn man they got me
This phone was rushed to market plain and simple. Beating the competition is the last thing the G1 can do and yes I am still using mine with my SE p990i for tethering,camera and all the other things the G1 can’t do.
We did not need another distro for starters but here is a list of what it should do out of the box being built on the Linux kernel.
Most of these we dont have due to Google being hung up on Java because Apple can’t use the apps due to licensing.
What we wont be getting is, Firefox, Flash, pdf, CUPS, some Oo support for .xls,.ppt,.odf,
What about email? We have Kmail,Evolution and a number of email clients and what was this mess of a client? at least there is K9.
The design is just plain utilitarian or was designed for the military!
The screen deal, it is a dual touch capacitive screen but it was not fully developed. I think it should have been UIQ, graffiti input with a stylus is nice and fast.
No BT api’s meaning no a2dp or external BT keyboard and the virtual keyboard is virtually impossible. And what were they thinking with a ext-usb and no phono plug? now you have to dongle it to headset.
Don’t misunderstand me here I like the attempt and some of the apps are great but Google needs to open this phone, stop worrying about the iPhone and just beat Apple with a truly open phone with all the features of a great smartphone.
I’m sorry to say but right now my UTStarcom dv007 Linux based 75 dollar just to have one phone does way more and is 10 times more cool.
Come on GOOGLE! build a world class phone and quit teasing us with dessert!
@Linuxfreak,
I do have to admit that the Maemo platform (nokia) is really sweet, using GTK and C.
However, I also must say, don’t dog Java, the VM in android is actually pretty sweet, too. What we need is full API access via it.
FACT Booooooooooo
i had one question?
so will people with the g1 receive anything on their phone so that they can download “cupcake” or will you have to keep checking the computer for results.
@ricardo,
You will get an Over The Air update notification from T-Mobile.
Looks like the end of the month update will go by the wayside as it looks more and more likely by mid February.
@Michael Martin, will this update take more of our memory or big do you think its bcuz thers alot of things in this update and it seem as though there adding sumthing everyday
This is crazy….come on tm!!!!
Acctually I was speaking with the technitions over the phone on customer care well they acctually said there is a cupcake and that the softwere os still being worked on and it will be out sometime in febuary its an over the air softwhere so every body will get it all you have to do is wait and be patient but it will come
ummm that the same thing “they” said, along with mr. michael martin, about january. i turned to this site 4 answers and only got misinformation. hey mike, what’s your “source” saying now?!?
lemme guess, it’s not ready… just be patient and you’ll get utopia. they’re just buying time until they can release another device that is 10 cents short of what we are looking for. don’t look for flash, or camera or the video kind on the g2 either. “leave them wanting more”
Just saw a story about tmo releasing a samsung memoir in feb. Its an american version of the samsung m8800 pixon. Full of features and a complete os. All touch no keyboard. Looks like I’m dropping my g1 for a phone with not only an 8mp cam… but xenon flash and the apparently unheard of, incredible, proprietary, unreasonably difficult technological advance called a full bluetooth stack (a2dp). Lol adios incomplete android.
i like how they jst keep delaying the update.first it was mid jan then late jan then early feb and now they’re saying mid feb…eventually its gonna be late june early july
@daniel,
Well get ready for this latest “rumor” – mid-February.
Supposedly the blame is on the layoffs causing the delay.
@Michael Martin, is there a way to remove the trackbacks since there is no info here worth clogging up my inbox with stupid, useless nonsense. you sure have gotten a lot of run from the blogosphere though. And your rumors can kiss my a**. if you have something to report, do it. if not, spare us. Take a lesson from phonescoop.com. no b.s. there…just FACTS. not to be confused with your FACTs, and your “source’s”.
I think that little fat girl from Maurry ate all the damn “cupcakes” so T-mobile and duncan hines are in colaboration to make more… lol
http://www.techtree.com/India/News/Android_Cupcakes_Virtual_Keyboard_Spotted/551-98324-580.html
im hoping we get it in a couple of days
yeah… keep hoping like the rest of us lemmings.
I just seen flash player 10 is out is that safe and fuctional to download on my G1 anybody???
wowwww……………….. cupcake my aunt susan smh
Dear Michael Martin,
A very interesting kick off to this posting titled “Where Are the Android G1 Updates of Mass Cupcakes?” I’ve been watching this and just haven’t been able to get past the fact that the unnamed person indicates you, “Michael Martin” as the author of the posting at the top where it is clearly typed “Posted on Jan 15, 2009 by Michael Martin in Service Providers, gPhones | 161 Comments”, but the character that is chastising you comes across as if he/she is trying to remain anonymous and/or he/she is trying to rebound quite a large blunder of passing on the fact that he/she “passed along” quite a large statement that should only have been LEGALLY publicized by T-Mobile. It could very understandable that if T-Mobile were to receive bad publicity as indicated by Thread User Name “eric” on January 17th, 2009 by saying:
“eric, January 17, 2009: you know wht else i think. i say if we dont get this update by the end of the onth we expose this isue we have with google and tmo to the mainstream media and put it out there… they wont like that at all tmo and google dont want any bad media like that because they will never be able to compete with at&t and iphone if that happend. we do that and you better believe we would have that update asap. Bad media like that would hurt there g2 sells. people would go somewere else if they knew tmo wasnt suporting their customers”
Typing & grammar corrections aside, this user has conveyed his message well which is a direct result of the statements released by the unnamed character who is chastising you Mr. Martin. I do not know you, but there is enough posted here to see through to the truth and who is really to blame for most of this potentially dangerous and damaging hype that has been created. Whether the RC31 (with Cupcake) Update is ready right now or not, it is only T-mobile that can LEGALLY make the true “Release Date” statement without having to worry about missing any target date. Had a “Target Date” never previously been made “PUBLIC” by the unnamed person, there would effectively be NO “T-Mobile Published” TARGET DATE THAT WAS MISSED… T-Mobile made no public statement of a target date, right?
As to you personally Mr. Martin; 161 comments and you have done an incredible job in keeping up with the sea of questions whether it is more of a code or technical question or someone just wondering if Album Art data is to be considered, the level of questions are of quite a variety and you sir have stayed in it with the best of them! GREAT JOB!
I feel that it would be safe to say that the majority of G1 users, such as myself, are more than pleased with the hardware as well as the software and probably understand that if one is to stay on the edge and receive technology and software that is “Open Source”, still, or better put, always in development and in your hands as soon as it can possibly be, one must understand and take part in the development, be proactive and provide feedback as a user’s wants and needs require in order to create a truly awesome product. All end-users (that haven’t already) should adopt this mindset and actively take part and help develop such a product that only the help from a world of collaborating minds can produce!
Thanks Michael Martin & Keep Up the GREAT Work, Anthony Wright
Its now February and no OTA update has been provided by T-Mobile to my knowledge.
The cop out I have heard is blaming the delay to layoffs, presumably those at Google which shifted resources away from Android although I haven’t heard of any layoffs from T-Mobile publicly.
im very pissed off i bought this phone, i sold my new sidekick tonyhawk to get this and it sucks and i have been waiting for a reason to keep this phone like rc31 update but i doubt its coming…
ya i am getting pretty tired of waiting for this update. like most people i dont really consider it a HUGE deal, its just a cool update. but the thing thats annoying is all the hype that YOU put on it and and continually giving “release dates” that never follow through. i say shut up until you know for sure.
the new rc33 update is on your way startig feb 5 you go to starst receiving the new update not the cupcake
@ Hector,
I saw that in the T-Mobile forums and its verified with a screenshot.
I will post about this on Tuesday once details of whats actually included in the OTA.
ok this is the video posted in the other blog by nullwire but this one has audio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfsvXJUVlY0&feature=related it says its from mobile crunch not sure who from mobile crunch but
“update release feb 5, g2 release feb 6″ :]
lol sry.. but ya hope this update really happens this time. i wouldnt mind seeing something new added to my g1 XD
Great article on ZDNet regarding the whole Cupcake saga & does call out, justifiably, GAB within it.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette/?p=731
Hey I got an update OTA to my G1 about 15 minutes ago but I don’t know what it changed. How do I figure out what’s different?
THANK YOU!!! That is a PERFECT explanation and almost exactly what I had added to one of the GAB forums when pertaining to the lack of validity to the ever so fictitious release dates. Literally, some people could/should be held liable for any damages for the WRONG TYPE OF PUBLICITY that Google and/or T-Mobile have received due to the incorrect information being stated as “missing release dates”. If everyone would just sit back and let Google and T-Mobile provide AWESOME additions and improvements to an already AWESOME piece of hardware on a realistic/actual timeframe that it takes programmers and R & D departments, we G1 USER WILL END UP WITH ONE SUPURB PRODUCT!!! Thank You Google & T-Mobile, Anthony Wright
This new update is wack..its just placed to shut us up about the Bluetooth & video recording….Where TF is Cupcake!
good update i thinks it makes maps run alot faster even most things on the phone good voice search cant wait till cupcake get your rc-33 update now its easy http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/02/05/how-to-get-rc33-on-your-g1-without-the-wait/
Does your phone have to be rooted to get this manually
No, but some people are reporting call and other issues after manually updating.
It may not be the direct cause of these issues, but its hedging myself temporarily from doing the manual upgrade, more so that I can patiently wait for the OTA.
has nyone lse ever realized that when they check there emails on this bog(when recieve an email thata new comment on this blog has neem posted) if the person usd the and symbol (&) it shows up on your phone as & . its othin major but it drives me nuts i was just wondering if anyone else had noticed this cuz whe i read the comment on my phneor on the internet on my phone it looks like that but on my computer its just the symbol &
Its an HTML issue as those emails are in plain text and don’t render the final HTML representation of the symbol but the code itself which is &
I am not aware of any end arounds to this, unless someone can provide the answer.
Thank You
so the next update we should be able to use flash player or real player or something????
Got the update around noon today. Was dissapointed not all what I was hoping for but its sattisfied my craving for some kind of frickin update ever since this cupcake drama started. Not alls bad at least there making an attempt to help us out here so that makes me happy. Still want stereo bluetooth for my motorola headset I bought. And flash sometime soon would deff be nice
can people who have received the RC33 update tell us what region your in so that we can see how the distribution of these OTA’s works??…thanks
I got mine at about 11am feb 5th I’m in chicago. My phone seems to run quicker and smoother if that makes sense. When u use the voice search a vocal image of ur sound waves come up. The icon lay out is a lil different now the icon titles scroll from right to left. I’ve saved mms and don’t need atrack dog anymore. I’m playin with it tryin to see what else is new.
To Michael M.
there are these leaked tmobile g2 pictures all over the internet..will u consider this one legit??..it looks legit to me..it doesnt look photoshopped…do u think its an android device by google called the g2 or the actual g1 succesor??..cuz from what i hear it wont have a physical qwerty keyboard…just want your opinion
http://www.pcworld.com/article/158078/android_tmobile_g2_leaked_photos_and_facts.html
I believe that is the real deal and should be on display at the upcoming mobile conference in Barcelona next week.
My opinion is that the G2 will target the sub $100 phone market and have more style than substance (like the keyboard).
Same as the iPhone will be doing later this year with a sub-$100 model.
I have the RC33 update, got it 4 das ago, just Voice recognition and save MMS attachments. Not even close to what the Cupcake mentions.
Has anyone in the UK received this update? Or are we being left behind again
@Graeme,
Nothing official yet, but a commenter on http://www.andgeeks.com/adp1-holiday-update/3744/ claimed that UK T-Mo support told him around February 20th and it should be equivalent to the RC33 sent to the US.
For what its worth.
http://www.ovum.com/news/euronews.asp?id=7681
this is some “ship-bull”!!! vodaphone gets cupcake and i hear no mention of cupcake for g1.
Oh well Feb 20th has been and gone and still no sign of the update happening in the UK. I am sure that we will not be receiving anything different to the US version so what is the hold up!! I don’t see why we should be forced to do a manual update when you guys in ther US have had it for a number of weeks. Anyone got any news?? Cheers
Where are you people getting your info from? What are you talking about a Cupcake update? Theres no such thing and there wont every be for the HTC DREAM (G1). Android OS doesn’t support a update like that. That so called CUPCAKE UPDATE you people are referring to is going to be part of the a different Android OS devices. What they have in this “update” doesn’t meet system requirements on the G1. So if you try to put in on your G1 there could be problems. Seriously who ever keeps saying theres a CUPCAKE update for the G1 your Stupid and for whoever came up with that rumor your completely stupid. Come on people have you seen Tmobile? Google? Or HTC? Officially say anything about a Cupcake update for the G1? Only thing that will be coming out is RC. The next thing thats coming out for the G1 is a video player.
Your comments make sense are you part of the Android Team? When do you think the video player will come out?
REALITY CHECK! There was a rumor Cupcake would arrive in January. Then a blogger said a tech person reported it would be out in February. I love it that it is now May — five months later folks. Nothing. T-Mobile has not released an OTA to anyone yet. Face it people, nobody knows and all the previous guesses were rumors. Will an update come out? Sure, just like all the rest of the ones did… Anyone want to guess the next update date? How about June 09? It is amazing how rumors contribute to hype on the Internet.
@Mark,
T-Mobile has provided you a REALITY CHECKMATE!
It has officially announced the Cupcake rollout to G1 owners starting this week and that EVERYONE should have it by the end of this month.
http://forums.t-mobile.com/tmbl/board/message?board.id=Android_MR&thread.id=1
Enjoy! :)
Has anyone received this cupcake…..if so when did they get it
Hello this g1 is a great phone it does so much you just got to try things an the one that says it sucks then why did you buy the g1 take it back stop crying.or go get the nokia n97 wallmart sells the g1 for 100 dollars go there to buy the g1.I have the g1 its great no drop calls my g1 works great no trouble yet from it.use your laptop but to watch movies on the g1 use the desk computer an download to your memory card its not that hard so if you used your time on trying to get your g1 doing everything you want it to an stop crying on all these blogs your g1 would be done dam well take care every 1 an good luck with the g1.ps just read an look up stuff for the g1 it will help you to get things for your sweet phone later